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Trak Cranker
Serenity Inc
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Posted - 2007.08.13 22:24:00 -
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Edited by: Trak Cranker on 13/08/2007 22:26:31
 Originally by: La Nina
Umm... When I am afk I am not actually doing anything to anyone in game. Any threat I may pose is a perceived one, not an actual threat. I am not responsible for any threat level people choose to assign to me at that time.
Saying a perceived threat is not a threat is about as backwards as it comes.
Only people that can't put two and two together will say a percieved threat in a system is not causing any harm.
A group can operate with quite a bit more efficiency in a situation with no cloakers compared to a sitution with one or some.
Reduced efficiency = reduced isk = reduced pvp financing = reduced pvp capability. Ultimately the same as shooting ships.
And thats all good and fine.
But it should not be a attainable while being afk for extended periods. That is of course an opinion - but I would like to think that afk gaming is abhorred by quite a large majority.
I dont think an invisible ship that didnt need controllingand could blow up an enemy ship once or twice an hour would go down as well as this apparently does.
Effect is the same though.
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Trak Cranker
Serenity Inc
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Posted - 2007.08.13 22:35:00 -
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Originally by: La Nina
Explain to me what actual threat I pose to you when I am afk please.
I dunno how you've mangaged to miss the several times that has been pointed out already - or managed not to figure it out yourself - but lets just reiterate:
You don't know if people are afk. So you have to constantly act as if they are not. Ergo they pose a threat when afk or not.
See above for the problems regarding the afk part.
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Trak Cranker
Serenity Inc
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Posted - 2007.08.13 23:13:00 -
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Originally by: La Nina
They aren't actually a threat tho, you just think they are and act accordingly, hence me calling it a perceived threat rather than an actual one. To you there is no distinction it seems but when someone wants to call afking cheating I figured I should point out that the threat is only in your mind as long as I am actually afk.
So according to you, suicide bombers/plane-hijackers are only a threat when they actually blow up/hijack a plane? We can remove all security in airports, because there really is nothing to worry about... unless ofc. someone does something that is...
When you have no way at all of determing a threat as being only percieved and not actual, it becomes the same thing as an actual threat - as far as the needed vigilance goes. You can use phrases like "its only in your mind" to try and belittle it, but the fact of the matter is that there is no way to determine when it is just that or for real. So that distinction cannot be expected to be made.
Hence every airline passenger goes through the same security ordeal.
You pose the exact same threat to your opponent when afk cloaked or when "actively" cloaked. There is no difference at all to the enemy.
So they are actually a threat. And impose a cost when being so.
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Trak Cranker
Serenity Inc
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Posted - 2007.08.13 23:15:00 -
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Originally by: JeanPierre
Sorry. It's always dangerous. 23/7/365.
Unless you are in a cloaked ship ofc. You forgot that disclaimer.
Then you decide when its dangerous.
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